Post by Gerardo CamposPost by Abraham EvangelistaPost by Gerardo CamposPost by JustinPost by Gerardo Campos<snip>
Post by Rob KelkPost by Glenn ShawYeah, but how many of those BitTorrent downloads were *legal*?
100% of the iTMS downloads were. Even more food for thought....
Where I live (Canada), all of them. We pay a licence fee on blank
CDs specifically so that we're allowed to copy or download music.
in Canada, how much of that downloaded music is actually burned into CDs?
Does it matter?
not really, I am just curious, since Rob indicated that they are
legally allowed to copy or download music, but if I download music in
Canada and save it in a memory card or keep it in my hard drive and I
never buy CDs, what is my legal situation?
A different but just as interesting question is, if I download music
to a Physically canadian box, and have purchased canadian blanks, can
I then legally transfer them from that machine to my own down here in
the states?
Post by Gerardo CamposPost by Abraham EvangelistaWell, I can't speak for your situation, but U.S. citizens are bound by
our domestic laws even when out of country, so we'd still be
infringing even if we did it north of the border.
Does Mexico not have similar stipulations regarding overseas conduct?
No, Mexicans, as well as everybody must follow the local country law,
I wasn't talking about local laws. You're completely right in that
you must follow local laws when you're in thier locale. But there are
at least some cases where specific laws regarding what we can do
overseas are in effect from our home governments.
Post by Gerardo Camposregardles of citizenship. No country has the right to impose their domestic
laws overseas. If you decide to adhere to your home laws while overseas and
That works fine when the local law is more restrictive, but is kind of
a grey area when the local laws are less so.
To use (an UGLY) example, for U.S. citizens at least, sex tourism is
explicitly prohibited by a specific law.
http://usinfo.state.gov/gi/Archive/2003/Dec/17-227348.html
That said, a quick set of google searches on my part seems to reveal
that this is a special case, and not true of jurisdiction in general.
http://travel.state.gov/travel/living/drugs/drugs_1237.html
I'm undone by the "US jurisdiction" bit around the end. So in
essence, I'm right specifically about sex tourism, but you're more
right in general. :-) I lose!
Post by Gerardo CamposUsually, in the US you must be at least 16 years old to get a driving
licence and drive a car, in Mexico you need to be 18 years old, so if you
are younger than 18 years old and found driving a car, then you are
breaking the law.
Again, local laws are more restrictive.
Post by Gerardo CamposIn the US you must be at least 21 years old to drinc alcoholic beverages,
in Mexico you need to be 18 years old, so its up to you if you are older
than 18 and younger than 21 if you are in Mexico and decide to have a
drink.
A diplomatic issue was raised when the US Treasury department ordered
Starwood (Sheraton) to tell a Sheraton hotel in Mexico City to expel Cuban
citizens from its premises, because of a US law banning commercial
relationship with Cuba.
The Sheraton hotel was fined for disobeying a law regarding discrimination
and ordered to pay compensation to the Cuban citizens, since the hotel
refused to return the payment on advance that the Cubans did for the hotel
services. The hotel in Mexico City was spared of being forced out of
business, since they could demonstrate that the order came directly from
their corporative office Starwood, acting as the Hotel owners, and not from
the US goverment.
I won't argue the validity of the verdict, but I am curious. When you
say they demonstrated the order came from the corporate office, do you
mean the order to expel the Cubans, or the order not to refund thier
deposits?
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