Overlord?

[T987654321]

What was the reaction in Japan to Overlord?
Anime where the core characters are out and out evil (I'd say lawful-evil in rpg terms) are pretty rare. Yes there are ones with a demon/devil as a core character but they are very curtailed in what they do. Not here.

[Arne Luft]

On Fri, 19 Aug 2022 09:43:01 -0700 (PDT), T987654321

Post by T987654321
What was the reaction in Japan to Overlord?

I don't know.

But peoples, who act peacefully in themselves, tolerate more
aggressive fairy tales.

It's the same with animals. The Common Chimpanzees are very aggressive
towards each other. And if someone makes a joke, he is immediately
attacked.

The subspecies Bonobos of the chimpanzees, on the other hand, are very
peaceful among themselves. With them, hearty jokes are quite common
because they have no consequences, because the joke is understood as
such.

Post by T987654321
Anime where the core characters are out and out evil (I'd say lawful-evil in rpg terms) are pretty rare.
Yes there are ones with a demon/devil as a core character but they are very curtailed in what they do. Not here.

I wouldn't call Ains an evil character. He acts realistically and not
softly, as it is customary in the West. We know from history that
treating aggressive power structures in a friendly manner only leads
to disaster. It is no coincidence in my opinion that the Kingdom of
Re-Estize is modeled after the Kingdom of Prussia that ended in
Hitler's Germany, and the Empire Bahamut is more similar to France.

His dealings with the frost dragon and the Quagoa in the current anime
could be seen as a result of such a realization by the series writer.
Current reality supports his views.



By the way, in other current animes like "Utawarerumono", women and
girls act much more aggressively than before. The days of magical
princesses seem to be over. This is the conscious equalization of the
sexes that is currently being carried out.

Here, too, it meets reality. As a young man, I knew young women and
girls who definitely settled their differences among themselves with
their fists. There weren't many, but there were.

[Arne Luft]

On Sat, 20 Aug 2022 01:00:27 +0200, Arne Luft

Post by Arne Luft
His dealings with the frost dragon and the Quagoa in the current anime
could be seen as a result of such a realization by the series writer.
Current reality supports his views.

Even his (Ains') strategies of subduing other countries reflect the
current reality: he puts idiots in or close to power in the target
states and uses their stupidity to dissolve existing orders and soften
the "enemy".


This is exactly - excuse me - what the shift from Trump to Biden
created for US foreign policy prestige.

Or - to speak of Germany - the Merkel phase and the current green
government created in real terms and not in the lying German media
compared to what was before 1998. The German energy policy is the
stupidest possible energy policy and the whole world sees it that way.

Thank you very much for your patience.

[T987654321]

Post by Arne Luft

Post by T987654321
Anime where the core characters are out and out evil (I'd say lawful-evil in rpg terms) are pretty rare.
Yes there are ones with a demon/devil as a core character but they are very curtailed in what they do. Not here.

I wouldn't call Ains an evil character. He acts realistically and not
softly, as it is customary in the West.

He attacks the lizard village for the sole purpose of testing some undead cannon fodder. He kidnaps huge numbers for slave labor. He rewards various subordinates with humans, and it's very clear what happens to them.

[Arne Luft]

On Wed, 24 Aug 2022 12:57:19 -0700 (PDT), T987654321

Post by T987654321

Post by Arne Luft

Post by T987654321
Anime where the core characters are out and out evil (I'd say lawful-evil in rpg terms) are pretty rare.
Yes there are ones with a demon/devil as a core character but they are very curtailed in what they do. Not here.

I wouldn't call Ains an evil character. He acts realistically and not
softly, as it is customary in the West.

He attacks the lizard village for the sole purpose of testing some undead cannon fodder.
He kidnaps huge numbers for slave labor. He rewards various subordinates with humans,
and it's very clear what happens to them.

Ainz was constructed in the game Yggdrassil to be malevolent, like all
characters of the group that have created Nazarik. His "Karma" is
officially in the books listed as -500 (very evil). Consequently, his
actions are constructed as evil from the start.

But he changes when he decides voluntarily and without the influence
of his comrades in the new world. He doesn't cooperate with criminals
to commit primitve crimes.

He slows down Cocytus when dealing with the lizardmen. He is building
a state tolerant of all races. He installs market economy instead of
princely glory. He uses magic to introduce technical advances, for
example in agriculture, instead of exploiting people uninhibitedly. He
promotes science as much as possible in this magical world. A current
example is the rune magic of the dwarves or the search for new ones by
the adventurers instead of killing goblins.

This is an evolution of Japanese "literature" and anime, in my
opinion. This already started with "Shingeki no Kyoujin" and is
currently clearly visible with "Made in Abyss". Added to this is the
change in the role of women. They can now be just as vicious and
brutal as men.

In Overlord there is also the author's idea of developing the
political story, he uses, differently from what happened in reality.
At the same time, however, he uses methods that can be seen in reality
but are mostly suppressed by the media in order to portray current
politicians in a better light than they deserve.

Ask yourself what you would do as a head of state if another state you
just dealt a catastrophic defeat had nothing better to do than attack
you again rather than cooperate, even as a vassal state?

But ultimately, he is very brutal in his methods with unrepentant
political opponents compared to what we are currently being told.
Perhaps it is what people today still have to learn, namely that
tolerance for the intolerant does not make them better people, but
rather strengthens them in their intolerance.

[T987654321]

We clearly have different definitions of evil.

[Arne Luft]

On Mon, 29 Aug 2022 10:49:12 -0700 (PDT), T987654321

Post by T987654321
We clearly have different definitions of evil.

It may look like it, but it is very unlikely that it will apply to
everyday life and personal behavior. It is probably different when
assessing long-term societal issues. Evolution doesn't work according
to "love is all you need" from my point of view.

[Arne Luft]

On Tue, 30 Aug 2022 03:51:54 +0200, Arne Luft

Post by Arne Luft
On Mon, 29 Aug 2022 10:49:12 -0700 (PDT), T987654321

Post by T987654321
We clearly have different definitions of evil.

It may look like it, but it is very unlikely that it will apply to
everyday life and personal behavior. It is probably different when
assessing long-term societal issues. Evolution doesn't work according
to "love is all you need" from my point of view.

For example, in the current Overlord anime series, in Episode 8 at
12:20, Ainz explains to Albedo that the superiors are responsible for
whatever random errors their subordinates make, when they didn't
intentionally created them. Therefore, he rebukes her, when she blamed
a woman, she hired, for the wrong behavior of those, she wanted to use
in the kingdom of Re-Estize.


Here in Germany, both the Merkel government and the Greens have done
everything for 20 years to destroy the secure supply of energy (Switch
off nuclear energy and coal as energy suppliers at the same time and
instead rely on wind, sun and gas from Russia.). For 20 years they
were advised not to destroy the diversification of the secure energy
supply. They did it anyway to assert their claims to power as saviors
of the world. That is why we in Germany are now facing a major crisis
that is ruining the livelihoods of many ordinary people.

And what are the Greens doing in Germany? They blame the citizens for
not being economical enough with energy, and the other politicians
for not building enough windmills. Is it the case that the wind blows
according to how many windmills are in front of it?

Are common people wasteful living in a country that has the highest
electricity prices on earth except for a few small island nations? A
green prime minister of a federal state has even asked the citizens to
give up showering and instead wash with a rag to save energy.

None of these politicians even think about resigning or admitting
mistakes. That is the way Marxists and Maoists think: it is always the
others who are to blame.

Now, who is evil? Ainz in Overlord or the boastful political actors in
Germany?

My apologies for bringing up politics in this newsgroup. But it is
unavoidable. Overlord is very realpolitik.