Help a newbie, Best Anime Ever??

Post by v***@gmail.com

i agree

There you are dredging up ancient posts.
I have seen Nausicaa and I think the TV series are better in
"Genshiken" and in "Yawara a fashionable Judo girl".
Myazaki's concern for the environment is admirable but may
oversell which which considering the audiences is no wonder.

bliss

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bliss dash SF 4 ever at dslextreme dot com

T987654321

2020-05-22 19:37:55 UTC

The original Ghost in the Shell (the BluRay re-release).
Akira (If you watch it maybe you can explain what happens at the end, I have no idea after multiple viewings)

Nick Roberts

2020-05-23 15:43:37 UTC

The original Ghost in the Shell (the BluRay re-release). Akira (If
you watch it maybe you can explain what happens at the end, I have no
idea after multiple viewings)

"Best Anime Ever" is a fairly meaningless question, I think, as the
best anime ever will vary from observer to observer and time to time.

And for what it's worth, I wouldn't put either of your suggestions in
my top 10, let alone best ever. Akira is, however, a strong candidate
for "Most Over-Hyped Anime Of All Time".

--
Nick Roberts tigger @ orpheusinternet.co.uk

Hanlon's Razor: Never attribute to malice that which
can be adequately explained by stupidity.

Bobbie Sellers

2020-05-23 16:45:39 UTC

The original Ghost in the Shell (the BluRay re-release). Akira (If
you watch it maybe you can explain what happens at the end, I have no
idea after multiple viewings)

"Best Anime Ever" is a fairly meaningless question, I think, as the
best anime ever will vary from observer to observer and time to time.
And for what it's worth, I wouldn't put either of your suggestions in
my top 10, let alone best ever. Akira is, however, a strong candidate
for "Most Over-Hyped Anime Of All Time".

What would have been your opinion in 1999 which is the date
of the post the poster is replying to? Personally I was not into
anime and manga at the time and while i had seen the manga cover
of Akira while in the San Francisco Nihon Machi i had no idea what
it was about. I do know it is an apocalyptic sort of dystopia
setting but I have never read the manga or watched the anime because
I have read enough Science Fiction and Speulation fiction novels with
dystopian setting and nihilistic protagonists,

I really like Yawara but isn't subjecting a 5 year old to
judo training and controling the school child's life as her grandfather
does amount to child abuse? Stiil enjoy the bouts and the rest of it
but the question is always nagging away.

I know that the reason I like Genshiken is because there were no
such clubs (afaik) while i was growing up. If there had been they would
not have been permitted such free form activites but we would have been
made to study and submit drawings of our own.

Also I really liked Maison Ikkoku but it should have had a good anime
movie. Maybe expanding on the profession of the peeping tom but
maybe Takahashi Rumiko could not think of what he might be doing except
cutting bond coupons. People wrote fan fiction then that turned Godai
into a drunk and Kyoko kicked him out as disaster enveloped that
fictional world.

As I say the poster is replying to a post that is now old enough
to vote. I wonder if Vidish.u is paying any attention to our replies
and Vidish don't be embarrassed, many of us have done the same.

bliss - who marks about 15 years of anime and manga study and
enjoyment.

--
bliss dash SF 4 ever at dslextreme dot com

v***@gmail.com

2020-05-23 18:53:05 UTC

The original Ghost in the Shell (the BluRay re-release). Akira (If
you watch it maybe you can explain what happens at the end, I have no
idea after multiple viewings)

"Best Anime Ever" is a fairly meaningless question, I think, as the
best anime ever will vary from observer to observer and time to time.
And for what it's worth, I wouldn't put either of your suggestions in
my top 10, let alone best ever. Akira is, however, a strong candidate
for "Most Over-Hyped Anime Of All Time".

What would have been your opinion in 1999 which is the date
of the post the poster is replying to? Personally I was not into
anime and manga at the time and while i had seen the manga cover
of Akira while in the San Francisco Nihon Machi i had no idea what
it was about. I do know it is an apocalyptic sort of dystopia
setting but I have never read the manga or watched the anime because
I have read enough Science Fiction and Speulation fiction novels with
dystopian setting and nihilistic protagonists,
I really like Yawara but isn't subjecting a 5 year old to
judo training and controling the school child's life as her grandfather
does amount to child abuse? Stiil enjoy the bouts and the rest of it
but the question is always nagging away.
I know that the reason I like Genshiken is because there were no
such clubs (afaik) while i was growing up. If there had been they would
not have been permitted such free form activites but we would have been
made to study and submit drawings of our own.
Also I really liked Maison Ikkoku but it should have had a good anime
movie. Maybe expanding on the profession of the peeping tom but
maybe Takahashi Rumiko could not think of what he might be doing except
cutting bond coupons. People wrote fan fiction then that turned Godai
into a drunk and Kyoko kicked him out as disaster enveloped that
fictional world.
As I say the poster is replying to a post that is now old enough
to vote. I wonder if Vidish.u is paying any attention to our replies
and Vidish don't be embarrassed, many of us have done the same.
bliss - who marks about 15 years of anime and manga study and
enjoyment.
--
bliss dash SF 4 ever at dslextreme dot com

honestly yeah so curious to see if i get a reply. Ive found post in 1992 and im just super curious as to what was going on then.

Im 22, so yeah i guess its an age thing

Bobbie Sellers

2020-05-23 20:20:33 UTC

The original Ghost in the Shell (the BluRay re-release). Akira (If
you watch it maybe you can explain what happens at the end, I have no
idea after multiple viewings)

"Best Anime Ever" is a fairly meaningless question, I think, as the
best anime ever will vary from observer to observer and time to time.
And for what it's worth, I wouldn't put either of your suggestions in
my top 10, let alone best ever. Akira is, however, a strong candidate
for "Most Over-Hyped Anime Of All Time".

What would have been your opinion in 1999 which is the date
of the post the poster is replying to? Personally I was not into
anime and manga at the time and while i had seen the manga cover
of Akira while in the San Francisco Nihon Machi i had no idea what
it was about. I do know it is an apocalyptic sort of dystopia
setting but I have never read the manga or watched the anime because
I have read enough Science Fiction and Speulation fiction novels with
dystopian setting and nihilistic protagonists,
I really like Yawara but isn't subjecting a 5 year old to
judo training and controling the school child's life as her grandfather
does amount to child abuse? Stiil enjoy the bouts and the rest of it
but the question is always nagging away.
I know that the reason I like Genshiken is because there were no
such clubs (afaik) while i was growing up. If there had been they would
not have been permitted such free form activites but we would have been
made to study and submit drawings of our own.
Also I really liked Maison Ikkoku but it should have had a good anime
movie. Maybe expanding on the profession of the peeping tom but
maybe Takahashi Rumiko could not think of what he might be doing except
cutting bond coupons. People wrote fan fiction then that turned Godai
into a drunk and Kyoko kicked him out as disaster enveloped that
fictional world.
As I say the poster is replying to a post that is now old enough
to vote. I wonder if Vidish.u is paying any attention to our replies
and Vidish don't be embarrassed, many of us have done the same.
bliss - who marks about 15 years of anime and manga study and
enjoyment.
--
bliss dash SF 4 ever at dslextreme dot com

honestly yeah so curious to see if i get a reply. Ive found post in 1992 .
and im just super curious as to what was going on then
Im 22, so yeah i guess its an age thing

Hey if you are in the USA you are old enough to vote too.

A lot more in Usenet was going on then than presently. I read
this Newsgroup for about a year as I was watching rented VCR tapes then
when I could not finish the MI series referenced above i bought my first
DVD player so that I could buy the series as it was released on DVD.

Because the VCR tapes of the anime had been retired I bought
my first manga of Maison Ikkoku to find out what happened to the main
characters, I laughed so hard reading the volume where the tennis coach
finds out he has promised to marry a girl whose bitch was made pregnant
by his dog, that I missed my stop and had to walk quite a ways back.

A great resource of those early days was this:The Anime Primer, or
"What Anime Should I Watch Now ...
<https://robkelk.ottawa-anime.org/primer/index.html>
The Primer used to be published here in text format but it
can still be read online.

Good watching Vidish!

bliss - Usenet it the original social media for people who share interests.

--
bliss dash SF 4 ever at dslextreme dot com

a***@bell.net

2020-05-24 00:16:52 UTC

The original Ghost in the Shell (the BluRay re-release). Akira (If
you watch it maybe you can explain what happens at the end, I have no
idea after multiple viewings)

"Best Anime Ever" is a fairly meaningless question, I think, as the
best anime ever will vary from observer to observer and time to time.
And for what it's worth, I wouldn't put either of your suggestions in
my top 10, let alone best ever. Akira is, however, a strong candidate
for "Most Over-Hyped Anime Of All Time".

What would have been your opinion in 1999 which is the date
of the post the poster is replying to? Personally I was not into
anime and manga at the time and while i had seen the manga cover
of Akira while in the San Francisco Nihon Machi i had no idea what
it was about. I do know it is an apocalyptic sort of dystopia
setting but I have never read the manga or watched the anime because
I have read enough Science Fiction and Speulation fiction novels with
dystopian setting and nihilistic protagonists,
I really like Yawara but isn't subjecting a 5 year old to
judo training and controling the school child's life as her grandfather
does amount to child abuse? Stiil enjoy the bouts and the rest of it
but the question is always nagging away.
I know that the reason I like Genshiken is because there were no
such clubs (afaik) while i was growing up. If there had been they would
not have been permitted such free form activites but we would have been
made to study and submit drawings of our own.
Also I really liked Maison Ikkoku but it should have had a good anime
movie. Maybe expanding on the profession of the peeping tom but
maybe Takahashi Rumiko could not think of what he might be doing except
cutting bond coupons. People wrote fan fiction then that turned Godai
into a drunk and Kyoko kicked him out as disaster enveloped that
fictional world.
As I say the poster is replying to a post that is now old enough
to vote. I wonder if Vidish.u is paying any attention to our replies
and Vidish don't be embarrassed, many of us have done the same.
bliss - who marks about 15 years of anime and manga study and
enjoyment.
--
bliss dash SF 4 ever at dslextreme dot com

honestly yeah so curious to see if i get a reply. Ive found post in 1992 .
and im just super curious as to what was going on then
Im 22, so yeah i guess its an age thing

Hey if you are in the USA you are old enough to vote too.
A lot more in Usenet was going on then than presently. I read
this Newsgroup for about a year as I was watching rented VCR tapes then
when I could not finish the MI series referenced above i bought my first
DVD player so that I could buy the series as it was released on DVD.
Because the VCR tapes of the anime had been retired I bought
my first manga of Maison Ikkoku to find out what happened to the main
characters, I laughed so hard reading the volume where the tennis coach
finds out he has promised to marry a girl whose bitch was made pregnant
by his dog, that I missed my stop and had to walk quite a ways back.
A great resource of those early days was this:The Anime Primer, or
"What Anime Should I Watch Now ...
<https://robkelk.ottawa-anime.org/primer/index.html>
The Primer used to be published here in text format but it
can still be read online.
Good watching Vidish!
bliss - Usenet the original social media for people who share interests.
--
bliss dash SF 4 ever at dslextreme dot com

1996 was the year I started to watch anime. I "fell in love" with Urusei Yatsura and spent a couple of years hunting down all of the episodes, movies and OAVs. While doing that hunting I started to swap tapes of TV shows for tapes of anime with a girl in Japan. (We did that for six years.) She was studying English and I was learning Japanese. Her tapes got me into Meitantei Conan, which started in 1996, is still running today, and I still watch it some 24 years later.

During those 24 years I've watched a couple of thousand anime series, movies and OAVs. There are dozens that I love and will re-watch multiple times when I have the urge to do so. There are hundreds more that I have on Laser Disc, DVD and Blu-ray that I intend to re-watch at some date.

The "Best"? There is no such thing. But "My Favourite" is still UY.

Dave Baranyi

Bobbie Sellers

2020-05-24 01:51:43 UTC

Post by a***@bell.net

The original Ghost in the Shell (the BluRay re-release). Akira (If
you watch it maybe you can explain what happens at the end, I have no
idea after multiple viewings)

"Best Anime Ever" is a fairly meaningless question, I think, as the
best anime ever will vary from observer to observer and time to time.
And for what it's worth, I wouldn't put either of your suggestions in
my top 10, let alone best ever. Akira is, however, a strong candidate
for "Most Over-Hyped Anime Of All Time".

What would have been your opinion in 1999 which is the date
of the post the poster is replying to? Personally I was not into
anime and manga at the time and while i had seen the manga cover
of Akira while in the San Francisco Nihon Machi i had no idea what
it was about. I do know it is an apocalyptic sort of dystopia
setting but I have never read the manga or watched the anime because
I have read enough Science Fiction and Speulation fiction novels with
dystopian setting and nihilistic protagonists,
I really like Yawara but isn't subjecting a 5 year old to
judo training and controling the school child's life as her grandfather
does amount to child abuse? Stiil enjoy the bouts and the rest of it
but the question is always nagging away.
I know that the reason I like Genshiken is because there were no
such clubs (afaik) while i was growing up. If there had been they would
not have been permitted such free form activites but we would have been
made to study and submit drawings of our own.
Also I really liked Maison Ikkoku but it should have had a good anime
movie. Maybe expanding on the profession of the peeping tom but
maybe Takahashi Rumiko could not think of what he might be doing except
cutting bond coupons. People wrote fan fiction then that turned Godai
into a drunk and Kyoko kicked him out as disaster enveloped that
fictional world.
As I say the poster is replying to a post that is now old enough
to vote. I wonder if Vidish.u is paying any attention to our replies
and Vidish don't be embarrassed, many of us have done the same.
bliss - who marks about 15 years of anime and manga study and
enjoyment.
--
bliss dash SF 4 ever at dslextreme dot com

honestly yeah so curious to see if i get a reply. Ive found post in 1992 .
and im just super curious as to what was going on then
Im 22, so yeah i guess its an age thing

Hey if you are in the USA you are old enough to vote too.
A lot more in Usenet was going on then than presently. I read
this Newsgroup for about a year as I was watching rented VCR tapes then
when I could not finish the MI series referenced above i bought my first
DVD player so that I could buy the series as it was released on DVD.
Because the VCR tapes of the anime had been retired I bought
my first manga of Maison Ikkoku to find out what happened to the main
characters, I laughed so hard reading the volume where the tennis coach
finds out he has promised to marry a girl whose bitch was made pregnant
by his dog, that I missed my stop and had to walk quite a ways back.
A great resource of those early days was this:The Anime Primer, or
"What Anime Should I Watch Now ...
<https://robkelk.ottawa-anime.org/primer/index.html>
The Primer used to be published here in text format but it
can still be read online.
Good watching Vidish!
bliss - Usenet the original social media for people who share interests.
--
bliss dash SF 4 ever at dslextreme dot com

1996 was the year I started to watch anime. I "fell in love" with Urusei Yatsura and spent a couple of years hunting down all of the episodes, movies and OAVs. While doing that hunting I started to swap tapes of TV shows for tapes of anime with a girl in Japan. (We did that for six years.) She was studying English and I was learning Japanese. Her tapes got me into Meitantei Conan, which started in 1996, is still running today, and I still watch it some 24 years later.
During those 24 years I've watched a couple of thousand anime series, movies and OAVs. There are dozens that I love and will re-watch multiple times when I have the urge to do so. There are hundreds more that I have on Laser Disc, DVD and Blu-ray that I intend to re-watch at some date.
The "Best"? There is no such thing. But "My Favourite" is still UY.
Dave Baranyi

And how old were you in '96, Dave?
If you were young then that is the cause of the continued
choice of UY.
I read a Batman comic when I was very young and he wore 2
automatic pistols but the mothers of America decided that a vigilante
gunman was not desirable and the publishers made the artists change
the character. Bats became a devoted defender of human life and his
most regretted failing later on were when he failed at that, both
with his son Damian and his great enemy Joker. But because I
started young with Bats, I still follow his and his cohorts today.
I leave it to the SFPL to pay $19.95 and up for the publication
in which he appears and I just borrow them. It is astonishing to me
that SFPL essentially is buying comic books which when I was young
would never have been considered.
With manga I try to buy the interesting series. And for a very
few series in anime I do the same.

bliss

--
bliss dash SF 4 ever at dslextreme dot com

a***@bell.net

2020-05-24 02:39:32 UTC

(Clipping to keep things manageable...)

Post by a***@bell.net
1996 was the year I started to watch anime. I "fell in love" with Urusei Yatsura and spent a couple of years hunting down all of the episodes, movies and OAVs. While doing that hunting I started to swap tapes of TV shows for tapes of anime with a girl in Japan. (We did that for six years.) She was studying English and I was learning Japanese. Her tapes got me into Meitantei Conan, which started in 1996, is still running today, and I still watch it some 24 years later.
During those 24 years I've watched a couple of thousand anime series, movies and OAVs. There are dozens that I love and will re-watch multiple times when I have the urge to do so. There are hundreds more that I have on Laser Disc, DVD and Blu-ray that I intend to re-watch at some date.
The "Best"? There is no such thing. But "My Favourite" is still UY.
Dave Baranyi

In 1996 I was 45 years old. When I was a little kid I was influenced by "Pinocchio", "The Thief of Bagdad" (1940 version) and most of all, "Fantasia", and in particular Mickey Mouse as the Sorcerer's Apprentice. That was always my secret reason for wanting to be, and becoming, a scientist. LOL (Ph.D., Inorganic Chemistry, McGill University, Montreal, 1976)

Dave Baranyi

v***@gmail.com

2020-05-24 05:50:28 UTC

Post by a***@bell.net
(Clipping to keep things manageable...)

i have a degree in pharmaceutical chemistry (york uni)

Nick Roberts

2020-05-26 18:07:55 UTC

The original Ghost in the Shell (the BluRay re-release). Akira
(If you watch it maybe you can explain what happens at the end, I
have no idea after multiple viewings)

"Best Anime Ever" is a fairly meaningless question, I think, as
the best anime ever will vary from observer to observer and time to
time.
And for what it's worth, I wouldn't put either of your suggestions
in my top 10, let alone best ever. Akira is, however, a strong
candidate for "Most Over-Hyped Anime Of All Time".

What would have been your opinion in 1999 which is the date
of the post the poster is replying to?

I had observed that the parent post was archaic, but as it appeared to
be reposted I thought it may have been worthwhile responding.

As for my opinion in 1999 re GitS and Akira - pretty much the same as
now. Except my opinion of Akira was, if anything, lower.

Quoting a Best is still impossible, but for a few pre-1999 anime I rank
very highly (and I think I've rewatched all of them within the last 5
years, so they stand the test of time).

Films (no implied order of preference here)
- Perfect Blue
- Kiki's Delivery Service
- Nausicaa
- Adolescence of Utena

TV/OAV Series
- Revolutionary Girl Utena
- El Hazard (original)
- Urusei Yatsura (OK, I haven't rewatched all of UY in the last 5
years - there's just too many episodes...)
- Vision of Escaflowne
- Fancy Lala
- Gunbuster
- Kare Kano

I was going to put in Voices Of A Distant Star and Noir but they both
miss the millenium barrier

Post by Bobbie Sellers
bliss - who marks about 15 years of anime and manga study and
enjoyment.

--
Nick Roberts tigger @ orpheusinternet.co.uk

Hanlon's Razor: Never attribute to malice that which
can be adequately explained by stupidity.

a***@bell.net

2020-05-27 01:13:29 UTC

The original Ghost in the Shell (the BluRay re-release). Akira
(If you watch it maybe you can explain what happens at the end, I
have no idea after multiple viewings)

"Best Anime Ever" is a fairly meaningless question, I think, as
the best anime ever will vary from observer to observer and time to
time.
And for what it's worth, I wouldn't put either of your suggestions
in my top 10, let alone best ever. Akira is, however, a strong
candidate for "Most Over-Hyped Anime Of All Time".

What would have been your opinion in 1999 which is the date
of the post the poster is replying to?

I had observed that the parent post was archaic, but as it appeared to
be reposted I thought it may have been worthwhile responding.
As for my opinion in 1999 re GitS and Akira - pretty much the same as
now. Except my opinion of Akira was, if anything, lower.
Quoting a Best is still impossible, but for a few pre-1999 anime I rank
very highly (and I think I've rewatched all of them within the last 5
years, so they stand the test of time).
Films (no implied order of preference here)
- Perfect Blue
- Kiki's Delivery Service
- Nausicaa
- Adolescence of Utena
TV/OAV Series
- Revolutionary Girl Utena
- El Hazard (original)
- Urusei Yatsura (OK, I haven't rewatched all of UY in the last 5
years - there's just too many episodes...)
- Vision of Escaflowne
- Fancy Lala
- Gunbuster
- Kare Kano
I was going to put in Voices Of A Distant Star and Noir but they both
miss the millenium barrier

Post by Bobbie Sellers
bliss - who marks about 15 years of anime and manga study and
enjoyment.

Nick - who marks so many years of anime that a significant proportion
of readers may not have been born when I started. A lot of stuff I
watched in the early days were commercial or fansubbed VHS (DVD hadn't
been invented).
--
Hanlon's Razor: Never attribute to malice that which
can be adequately explained by stupidity.

The original El Hazard OAV series is one of my all-time favourites. I re-watched it again last year and it still engages me.

I keep on telling myself to re-watch Kare Kano. I've got the original Japanese Laser Discs and my LD player still works, so I don't have any excuse... LOL

I haven't thought about Noir in a long time. (I've got it on Japanese R2 DVDs). I ought to re-watch that too...

So many shows...

Dave Baranyi

Bobbie Sellers

2020-05-27 01:45:05 UTC

Post by a***@bell.net

The original Ghost in the Shell (the BluRay re-release). Akira
(If you watch it maybe you can explain what happens at the end, I
have no idea after multiple viewings)

"Best Anime Ever" is a fairly meaningless question, I think, as
the best anime ever will vary from observer to observer and time to
time.
And for what it's worth, I wouldn't put either of your suggestions
in my top 10, let alone best ever. Akira is, however, a strong
candidate for "Most Over-Hyped Anime Of All Time".

What would have been your opinion in 1999 which is the date
of the post the poster is replying to?

I had observed that the parent post was archaic, but as it appeared to
be reposted I thought it may have been worthwhile responding.
As for my opinion in 1999 re GitS and Akira - pretty much the same as
now. Except my opinion of Akira was, if anything, lower.
Quoting a Best is still impossible, but for a few pre-1999 anime I rank
very highly (and I think I've rewatched all of them within the last 5
years, so they stand the test of time).
Films (no implied order of preference here)
- Perfect Blue
- Kiki's Delivery Service
- Nausicaa
- Adolescence of Utena
TV/OAV Series
- Revolutionary Girl Utena
- El Hazard (original)
- Urusei Yatsura (OK, I haven't rewatched all of UY in the last 5
years - there's just too many episodes...)
- Vision of Escaflowne
- Fancy Lala
- Gunbuster
- Kare Kano
I was going to put in Voices Of A Distant Star and Noir but they both
miss the millenium barrier

Post by Bobbie Sellers
bliss - who marks about 15 years of anime and manga study and
enjoyment.

A beautiful beginning but it falls apart. Anime got ahead of the manga
and producer freaked out.
Manga has the real finish and it is an sad, sad story.

Post by a***@bell.net
I haven't thought about Noir in a long time. (I've got it on Japanese R2 DVDs). I ought to re-watch that too...
So many shows...
Dave Baranyi

Kare Kano should be re-visted but better shows about similar characters
are all over the place. A bad marriage or affair by the
hero's father is the problem at the root of the insecurities of the son.
If I remember correctly father is a pianist who works abroad rather
than be subjected to the exactions of the bad woman who birthed his
son. The father resolves the situation in the most violent way when
he briefly returns to Japan.

So I haven't spoiled the details. Remember though that First
Loves are usually unhappy as a rule.

bliss

--
bliss dash SF 4 ever at dslextreme dot com

v***@gmail.com

2020-05-24 05:49:47 UTC